Mr.
Garfield Dunlop (Simcoe North): My question
today is for the Minister of Community Safety
and Correctional Services. Minister, as you know,
the general headquarters of the OPP is located
in my riding of Simcoe North in the city of Orillia.
We're very proud of their strong presence and
community involvement. I speak to officers virtually
every day, and lately the discussion is about
Caledonia. Officers have told me that the officers
at Caledonia feel like the meat in a sandwich.
They are the sons and daughters, brothers and
sisters, and mothers and fathers of Ontario families.
These men and women put their lives on the line
every day.
Minister, the president of the OPPA has criticized
the government for the lack of support involving
equipment and clothing used under normal procedures.
The officers have been told not to wear riot gear
and tactical uniforms when dealing with native
protesters. In today's Toronto Star, Susan Clairmont's
column, President Walsh of the OPPA made a statement
on this very issue: "Due to the political
pressures and optics involved with this, the OPP
seems to be bending their own rules while sacrificing
officer safety."
The Speaker (Hon. Michael A. Brown):
The question's been asked.
Hon. Monte Kwinter (Minister of Community
Safety and Correctional Services): I
assume there was a question that was contemplated
in that statement. I'll try to anticipate what
it is.
As I told the member from Leeds-Grenville, the
OPP is directed by Commissioner Gwen Boniface
and her command officers. They make the determinations
as to what their officers will be doing. It
is their responsibility. In conversations I've
had with the commissioner over time, she has
not in any way ever indicated that they lack
resources, that they lack manpower. She has
said they are equipped to deal with the situation
as they find it. I have a great deal of confidence
in the OPP. I have confidence in their leadership,
and I have confidence in all the men and women
who serve this province so ably.
Mr. Dunlop: Minister, it is
clear that OPP officers' safety is in jeopardy
because of political optics. Further in today's
Toronto Star, President Walsh makes two more
statements in reference to this issue: "It's
okay to have an officer ... in tactical uniform
at Wasaga Beach on a long weekend, but it's
not okay in Caledonia." The second quote
is, "But these officers were ordered not
to wear them for optical purposes." Minister,
do you agree with the statements made by OPP
President Walsh?
Hon. Mr. Kwinter: I have no
ability to disagree with him because this is
an internal operational issue of the OPP. If
Karl Walsh, the president of the OPPA, has a
problem with the direction the OPP is taking,
it's up to him as the president of the OPPA
to direct his concerns to the commissioner.
It is my understanding that in fact that is
what he is doing. To suggest that I should get
involved in an operational issue that is the
responsibility of the OPP and the concern of
the OPPA is just not true. That's not something
I am entitled or enabled to do.