Mr Garfield Dunlop (Simcoe North):
My question today is for the Premier. Premier,
yesterday you and your community safety minister
connected the placement of video cameras in
police cars with racial profiling. Our government
was in the process of piloting cameras in cars
as an officer safety issue, not to identify
police officers as bigots. There are 365 days
in the year, and your minister chose to make
the video camera announcement on exactly the
same day the Human Rights Commission report
came out.
Premier, you and your minister have tarnished
the reputation of each and every police officer
in this province by suggesting that this pilot
is linked to racial profiling. Will you apologize
in this House to the men and women in blue who
put their lives on the line 24 hours a day for
you, your family, and every other citizen in
this province?
Hon Dalton McGuinty (Premier, Minister
of Intergovernmental Affairs): I want
to thank the member for his question. I want
to begin by cautioning the member opposite against
using this issue as a way to exploit what could
be a very controversial and divisive matter.
I want to begin as well by thanking our police
officers, who day in and day out put their lives
on the line to protect the public safety and
the well-being of our families.
This is not about taking sides; it's about
finding ways to make progress. I had an opportunity
earlier today to speak with Chief Fantino. I've
invited him to sit down with us. We're not going
to be caught up in some kind of exchange through
the media. We think it's important to sit down
together, to allow cooler heads to prevail,
and to ensure that we work together to build
a strong, caring society.
Mr Dunlop: Premier, I can't
stress enough how disrespectful it is for police
officers to be unfairly linked to racial profiling.
Here's a quote from Brian Adkin, president of
the Ontario Provincial Police Association, which
appeared in the press release your minister
was bragging about just yesterday. One thing
he didn't say was that the headline of the press
release said, "Ontario Provincial Police
Association Warns Against Police Profiling."
I'd like to read a comment that Mr Adkin made
from the press release. It says, "The commission
asks Ontarians to accept as a fact the existence
of systemic `racial profiling' and suggests
that policemen and women are among its greatest
perpetrators. We reject this, and suggest that
the commission itself is contributing to `police
profiling': the belief that police unfairly
target lawbreakers only if they are members
of visible minorities. This is not true and
is very offensive to my members."
Furthermore, my staff member spoke to Brian
Adkin just this afternoon, and he told her that
the OPPA agrees with the installation of cameras
in police cruisers solely for officers' safety
and obtaining evidence. Premier, why is your
government trying to --
The Speaker (Hon Alvin Curling):
Thank you. When I stand, I would like you to
sit, because you have run out of time asking
your question.
Premier?
Hon Mr McGuinty: I know the
minister is very eager to speak to this issue.
Hon Monte Kwinter (Minister of Community Safety
and Correctional Services): The member is trying
to imply things that aren't there. Just so you'll
know, Commissioner Norton's report suggested
that police cars should be equipped with video
cameras. All I responded to was the fact that
we are starting a pilot project that will put
12 cameras into Kenora and 22 into Toronto.
This is the OPP. That is all the comment was
about. I had no comment to make about racial
profiling.
But you should also know that Chief Algar of
the Ontario Association of Chiefs of Police
supports this position. Chief Bevan of Ottawa
supports this position. The chiefs of police
of Ontario support this position. It's a situation
where it is deemed to be an effective police
tool. It is there for the safety of the police
officers as well as the safety of the citizens
who interact with them. It is a safety measure
only, and it has nothing to do with the implications
that you're putting forward.
Mr Dunlop: It's funny; we didn't
actually make that link. The link came from
those two people over there.
Our government spent eight years supporting
police officers, building their morale and their
confidence. Are you trying to destroy the morale
of police officers before Christmas of this
very season?
Hon Mr Kwinter: You should
know, if you've followed any of the reports,
that I have been very supportive of the police.
I can tell you that I also had a conversation
with Chief Fantino this afternoon. He understands
exactly that we are supportive of the police.
We respect what they do. They put their lives
on the line every day for the citizens of Ontario.
We support them. We want to make sure that we
prevent them from being in harm's way, and this
is one of the ways of doing it.