Mr Garfield Dunlop (Simcoe North):
My question today is for Premier McGuinty. The
member you appointed as the Minister of Community
Safety and Correctional Services yesterday unfortunately
told the media that the life of a Scarborough
man fatally shot by police would probably have
been spared if the police had instead used a
Taser gun. Minister Kwinter said, "It's
unfortunate that the particular officers that
were there were not equipped with Tasers, (because)
that would have without question resulted in
a different outcome."
With this comment, your honourable minister
has jeopardized a criminal investigation. He
has jeopardized the current special investigations
unit investigation. He has jeopardized potential
civil action by the family. If that isn't enough,
he has also second-guessed police, the very
people he is supposed to be protecting as minister.
And of course, he was not there at the scene
of the incident. Premier, in light of these
examples of inexcusable interference by Minister
Kwinter, should the minister continue in his
job?
Hon Dalton McGuinty (Premier, Minister
of Intergovernmental Affairs): Yes,
he should. Let me tell you that we have no stronger
champion in this Legislature, when it comes
to our Ontario police and the sacrifices they
make and the work they do day in and day out
on behalf of the people of Ontario, than is
to be found in our Minister of Community Safety
and Correctional Services.
Mr Dunlop: I'd like to refresh
the Premier's memory on something. Back in 1998
you asked --
Interjection.
Hon Marie Bountrogianni (Minister of
Children and Youth Services, Minister of Citizenship
and Immigration): On a point of order,
Mr Speaker: I am compelled as Minister of Citizenship
and Immigration to ask the member behind John
Baird, Jim Wilson, to retract that statement.
The Speaker (Hon Alvin Curling):
Order. I'm very pleased members are trying to
get some decorum in here. If there was an unparliamentary
word the member said, I ask him to withdraw.
I did not hear the word.
Member from Simcoe North.
Mr Dunlop: I think this is
a very serious issue. I'd like to refresh the
Premier's memory. Back in 1998 you asked for
Bob Runciman's resignation when the name of
a mother of a young offender was mentioned in
a throne speech. The mother had even consented
to her name being used in that throne speech.
Here's what you said about this in the Ottawa
Citizen on April 25, 1998: "This has turned
from a question of competence to a question
of integrity."
Bob Runciman did the honourable thing. He showed
integrity and he stepped aside until his name
was actually cleared. In light of the fact that
Minister Kwinter has commented on a case that
is before the province's special investigations
unit, will you ask Minister Kwinter to do what
is honourable, to show integrity and resign?
Hon Mr McGuinty: Minister Kwinter
has my full support.