Mr. Garfield Dunlop (Simcoe North):
My question is for the Minister of Community
Safety and Correctional Services. It involves
the city of Guelph. I want to add right off
the bat that Guelph has joined Club Zero as
of 2006 under the Ontario municipal partnership
fund.
In an article in the Guelph Mercury on Saturday,
a spokesman from your ministry identified the
latest in your arsenal of stalling tactics on
your campaign promise to put 1,000 new police
officers on our streets. I'll quote from the
ministry spokesman, who says, "It's not
just hiring the officers, but we also have to
determine what areas need officers." That's
exactly what the spokesperson from your ministry
said.
May I remind you that your ministry doesn't
hire the officers? Local police services do.
These local police services also know better
than anyone else in the province what areas
of policing require the officers most. When
are you going to stop stalling on keeping this
promise, let municipalities know how many officers
they are actually getting and let local police
services decide how they want the officers allocated?
Hon. Monte Kwinter (Minister of Community
Safety and Correctional Services): I
thank the member for the question. He obviously
doesn't understand how the system works. Under
the community policing program that his government
initiated, it was a shared-cost program, with
the government paying 50%, to a maximum of $30,000
per officer. The ministry does not decide how
many officers a particular municipality is going
to have. The municipality has to decide how
many officers they can afford, pegging their
share of the cost.
What happens is that we are negotiating with
police services across the province to determine
what number of officers they would like to access.
When they do that, and when we have them all
in order so we know how many of the 1,000 are
going to what particular police service, we
will do it. We are absolutely committed, and
I can give you my guarantee, that before this
mandate is over, we will be putting 1,000 new
officers in the streets and communities in Ontario.
Mr. Dunlop: Minister, in that
same newspaper article, Guelph police chief
Rob Davis, right in your parliamentary assistant's
own riding, says he couldn't wait for the McGuinty
government to make good on its promise to hire
1,000 new police officers. In fact, he hasn't
even had a response from your office in over
two months. Because of retirements, maternity
leaves and injuries, he's had to hire new police
officers, but he's not getting a single penny
from the McGuinty government to pay for them.
Minister, if and when you finally get around
to keeping your promise, will you reimburse
the city of Guelph and other municipalities
for the police officers they hire on their own
in the meantime? Will you do that, since your
Premier made the fancy announcement last year
on October 24 when he announced that you'd be
hiring 1,000 new police officers?
Hon. Mr. Kwinter: Every police
service in Ontario has retirements, attrition,
things that are happening, and they have a complement
that their local municipalities have decided
they're prepared to fund. What we are talking
about is an additional 1,000 officers. What
is happening in a lot of communities is that
they're saying, "This could be imminent,
so why should we hire 100% dollars on police
services when we can wait and get 50% dollars?"
That is what is happening. But in the meantime,
they have an obligation to maintain their police
service at the complement they have. We are
providing 1,000 extra officers on top of that.